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Old 04-12-2006, 02:43 PM
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Cool Somare on the campaign trial to lead NA back to govt.

What is your opinion on this? Somare has been on the road campaigning hard to get back into parliament and lead NA back to government, with him still taking charge.

Lacks credibility on his side isnt it. He publicly declared that 2002 was his final year of campaign for the ESP regional seat. He promised to retire.

How ironic, he is now promises to lead NA into 2007 elections and return as the Prime Minister.

In his old age, power must be becoming sweeter than what he expected.. hehehehe.. PNG, land of the unexpected where the politicians behaviour is contrary to what comes out of the mouth.
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Old 20-12-2006, 03:53 PM
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man though i have much to talk about on that i dont want to comment more than what you said... i dont know why.. i just dont know why... PNG politics is like this.. its crazy.. you know you cannot wear the same shirt for more than 7 days.. unless ofcourse its your favourite shirt though...
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Time to move on, Chief

The Prime Minister is suppose to be the chief servant for us all. Someone that "serves" his people and not someone that makes money off his people. In my view, the office of the Prime Minister is a "tribal" office; a place where wantok comes first rather than the country itself.

For the Chief, will I remember him as the Father of the Nation, or someone that is only concern about his survival and that of his immediate clansmen (on a political scene). I would perfer to remember him as the Father of the Nation other than something else.

It's really up to the people of East Sepik Province. If they want their tribal chief to return, they will vote for him. Those in the province that do not want him return have to turn up and cast their votes. Failure to do so will lead to the Chief returning for another term at Waigani. It's a waste of time talking about Chief's return as he is at the mercy of his tribesmen and the people of East Sepik Province.
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Old 12-01-2007, 02:20 AM
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Somare Is Corrupt

Where the hell is this Michael Somaare bloke trying to take us. He led millions of people in the Eastern part of the island New Guinea (PNG) to Independence not because we were ready (hardly at that time) but simply because some white bloke kicked him out of the Papua Club.

Now he's filthy rich and the rest of those millions are still languishing in abject poverty.

He is the epitomy of PNG corruption (think about the pelair inquiry, the family's corrupt timber deals, did they collect money from a multimillion taiwan - satellite deals for PTC that no one seems to remember, the jailed Nahau Rooney interference by Somare in the course of justice, the Somare house that they hijacked from Pangu Pati, did he and his cronies collect from the Moti escapade...... and much much more). We must be mad to think he can take us anywhere at all (and guess who were mad enough to appoint him PM in parliament).

For people like somare and the corrupt politicians like him we honestly should begin considering assassinations. We cannot institute legislation to hang or execute corrupt politicians (like China) because these cockroaches make the laws and will do all they can to avoid these types of laws.

Imagine that a small bottle of vaccine to save 10 children's lives from pneumonia will probably cost 100 kina. When Somare and his cronies misappropriate a million kina or increase their salaries and perks by a million they are guilty beyond reasonable doubt of indirectly killing 100,000 children or putting their lives at risk of illness and death. Why jail a street boy who steals 10 kina when the real criminals are the likes of somare.

Who is there to help the ordinary people who in their ignorance will continue to exchange their vote for the lamb flaps feast they cannot afford? no one, because all our leaders including Somare are too busy trying to get rich. Thus I say again that the time is nigh to begin assassination of politicians such as these.

Moses led the people into the wilderness from Egypt for 40 years but looked after them well, gave them good laws before ending up in the promised land. Somare led us out of Australia but took care of himself his family and his cronies, gave us laws that somare can use to pervert the course of justice and there is no promised land in sight
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Where the hell is this Michael Somaare bloke trying to take us. He led millions of people in the Eastern part of the island New Guinea (PNG) to Independence not because we were ready (hardly at that time) but simply because some white bloke kicked him out of the Papua Club.

Now he's filthy rich and the rest of those millions are still languishing in abject poverty.

He is the epitomy of PNG corruption (think about the pelair inquiry, the family's corrupt timber deals, did they collect money from a multimillion taiwan - satellite deals for PTC that no one seems to remember, the jailed Nahau Rooney interference by Somare in the course of justice, the Somare house that they hijacked from Pangu Pati, did he and his cronies collect from the Moti escapade...... and much much more). We must be mad to think he can take us anywhere at all (and guess who were mad enough to appoint him PM in parliament).

For people like somare and the corrupt politicians like him we honestly should begin considering assassinations. We cannot institute legislation to hang or execute corrupt politicians (like China) because these cockroaches make the laws and will do all they can to avoid these types of laws.

Imagine that a small bottle of vaccine to save 10 children's lives from pneumonia will probably cost 100 kina. When Somare and his cronies misappropriate a million kina or increase their salaries and perks by a million they are guilty beyond reasonable doubt of indirectly killing 100,000 children or putting their lives at risk of illness and death. Why jail a street boy who steals 10 kina when the real criminals are the likes of somare.

Who is there to help the ordinary people who in their ignorance will continue to exchange their vote for the lamb flaps feast they cannot afford? no one, because all our leaders including Somare are too busy trying to get rich. Thus I say again that the time is nigh to begin assassination of politicians such as these.

Moses led the people into the wilderness from Egypt for 40 years but looked after them well, gave them good laws before ending up in the promised land. Somare led us out of Australia but took care of himself his family and his cronies, gave us laws that somare can use to pervert the course of justice and there is no promised land in sight
Why don't you take him to court? I can't believe this statement of yours "or people like somare and the corrupt politicians like him we honestly should begin considering assassinations."

Why should we waste state money for funeral services, one after the other? Man, toktok imas pinis ya!
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Why don't you take him to court? I can't believe this statement of yours "or people like somare and the corrupt politicians like him we honestly should begin considering assassinations."

Why should we waste state money for funeral services, one after the other? Man, toktok imas pinis ya!
COURT!, Na mi toktok pinis ya.... "We cannot institute legislation to hang or execute corrupt politicians (like China) because these cockroaches make the laws and will do all they can to avoid these types of laws".

And anyway who has the recources to take a major class action suit against the likes of these people. Unless you and I away from PNG can raise funds...........

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COURT!, Na mi toktok pinis ya.... "We cannot institute legislation to hang or execute corrupt politicians (like China) because these cockroaches make the laws and will do all they can to avoid these types of laws".

And anyway who has the recources to take a major class action suit against the likes of these people. Unless you and I away from PNG can raise funds...........

Somare or any other politicians future is in the hands of the people. The very people they represent in the Parliment. You and I will not raise enough money to take these people to face the law.

I am dead against killing. What you have suggested does not solve the issue. It will turn the country into a tribal warfare. Kill Somare and the Sepiks will take to the street. Kill an Engan and they will take to the street.

If these people were elected to the office by the people, they have to be remove from the office by the people through the voting process. Or better still, they have to be man enough to gracefully step down from the public office and public life.
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Somare or any other politicians future is in the hands of the people. The very people they represent in the Parliment. You and I will not raise enough money to take these people to face the law.

I am dead against killing. What you have suggested does not solve the issue. It will turn the country into a tribal warfare. Kill Somare and the Sepiks will take to the street. Kill an Engan and they will take to the street.

If these people were elected to the office by the people, they have to be remove from the office by the people through the voting process. Or better still, they have to be man enough to gracefully step down from the public office and public life.
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Em tu mi tok pinis : "Who is there to help the ordinary people who in their ignorance will continue to exchange their vote for the lamb flaps feast they cannot afford? no one, because all our leaders including Somare are too busy trying to get rich"

The PNGean idea of voting
The majority of PNGeans have no concept of how their votes and members relate to the greater good of PNG and the larger notion of "Nationhood" as it were. I appreciate your good and noble principle of being against killing. Yet either we continue the current trends and face a tragic or catastrophic end of PNG at enormous social and human expense and carnage or while there is still hope we must put an end to the corrupt politicians in power now. Kill the corrupt and put fear into those who are thinking about being corrupt. Or we can wait for the carnage.

Managing our country
Our leaders should be managing the country as directors of a company. Ensuring the company's goals are achieved through prudent corporate planning that comprises good people management, good resources management, good client services management and reinvestment programs. Centered around an aria of high corporate governance best practice standards. Look at PNG MPs and their appointees who lead public organizations and corporate bodies. Instead of reinvesting in people resources and client services our company (PNG Parliament) is reinvesting in its own board of directors or if not they are putting their dirty fingers into the company's profits. One day these profits will stop flowing into the company's coffers then what?

The PNG MP's Collective View
If you remember well only two months back one of the government members, a frontbench cockroach called Nick Kuman neatly summarized their collective view of invincibility by stating that "There is no one above MPs except God". This caused flurry of comments and statements in our two dailies (and as usual has quickly dissipated into nothingness).

Failing socio-economic Indicators
Anyway you guys get the idea of what Im saying. Lets not wait too long for forced change. Our nation is already a failed state only the leaders do not seem to see that. Our country is also now cassified by the UN as one of the thirty poorest countries and our leaders argue against it. You only have to examine our socio-economic indicators (out of the 21 commonly used outcomebased socio-econimic indicators , 12 are health indicators and about 5 are education related) to appreciate PNGs level of poverty and development. And you only have to go to the nearest school or health centre to see this.

Anyway over to you gentlemen, time to take out the corrupt 1 x 1.

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PM cited

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Post Courier Tuesday 24th Jan 2007

Prime Minister Sir Michael Somare, as an individual, could have ordered the clandestine escape of Julian Moti, says John Kawi, senior counsel assisting the Defence Board of Inquiry.
Mr Kawi said the board in its report on the findings would infer Sir Michael, as an individual, could have ordered the clandestine operation which spirited Julian Moti using a PNGDF CASA aircraft on October 10 last year.
“Secretary to the National Executive Council, Winnie Kiap said the NEC did not give any orders for the operation,’’ Mr Kawi said.
“The board will accept that and infer that the orders could have been an individual decision by the Prime Minister,” he said. The senior counsel said the inquiry would stand by the Prime Minister’s statement that he did not issue any written or verbal orders to his subordinates for the operation and will not summons Grand Chief to present himself to the inquiry. But the inquiry sees that those who gave evidence have lied, told half truths, cover-ups and made contradictory statements.
“A mystery of lies, half truths, cover-ups and contradictory statements have been given to the inquiry by senior military personnel and civilians into the clandestine operation,” Mr Kawi said.
Evidence given before the defence board of inquiry by both military personnel and civilians into the secret operation which spirited Julian Moti to the Solomon Islands indicates the orders for the operation came from the top. National Security Chief Joseph Assaigo, while giving evidence, said he got the orders from the Prime Minister’s chief of staff Leonard Louma to carry out the secret operation, and also revealed he was under enormous political pressure.
However, Mr Louma said he never met or spoke to Mr Assaigo concerning the secret operation. Then acting commander of the PNGDF Captain Tom Ur told the inquiry that after getting the orders from Mr Assaigo told him if the Prime Minister was aware of the operation where Mr Assaigo said yes. Captain Ur also told the inquiry that when he informed Sir Michael of the operation after it was conducted, the PM said to leave everything to him (PM) as it was all political. “The board has been told lies, half truths, and contradictions but we are almost done and finalising our report,” Mr Kawi said. Mr Kawi said although the board was almost done with the inquiry, it was recalling several people who may need to clarify some statements or evidence.
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too late for good things.

I don't really know anything about the government issues in png, but all i do know is all the politicians there are either corrupt or just not fit enough to run the country. Not being racist or anything but maybe if png allowed australia to take care of them in the begginning our country would not be in such poverty or have a high percentage of hiv or even be working as slaves. no matter whether you have a degree in science, law, computering etc what good does it do if you earn less that K2 an hour and working your arse off when politicians run around in fancy cars or live in big flash houses while everyone else suffers. So with the prime minister thing i reckon they should let a white man with no racial issues run the country or surrender to australia....that's if aust would ever want png now with all its destructions. HOWEVER i know this would never be for another hundred years or more.....HOW SAD



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What is your opinion on this? Somare has been on the road campaigning hard to get back into parliament and lead NA back to government, with him still taking charge.

Lacks credibility on his side isnt it. He publicly declared that 2002 was his final year of campaign for the ESP regional seat. He promised to retire.

How ironic, he is now promises to lead NA into 2007 elections and return as the Prime Minister.

In his old age, power must be becoming sweeter than what he expected.. hehehehe.. PNG, land of the unexpected where the politicians behaviour is contrary to what comes out of the mouth.
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